COREY BOLASKI FS= First statement   GJ=Grand Jury

 CONCERNING FRIENDSHIP WITH TRISTAN. SAYS HE IS VAGUELY FRIENDS. TRISTAN SAYS REALLY GOOD FRIENDS.

GJ

 16:5    A.   I know about yesterday is that I'm friends with --

6:   vaguely friends with this kid Tristan Blanchard.

 

FS- KB

42:03  A.     Tristan is, he's a friend of Corey's, also a

 04  friend of mine.  But he graduated with Corey.  And they

 05  are more closer friends than Tristan and myself,

 

GJ-TB

  12  Q.     So how would you describe your relationship with

 13  Kyle? 

 14  A.     Friends.

 15  Q.     And Corey?

 16  A.     Friends, really good friends.

 

 

CONCERNING THE PHONE CALL TO TRISTAN BLANCHARD FIRST STATES HE GOT THE CALL THEN SAYS KYLE DID.

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31:25    A.   So that's what I heard from Tristan.  I didn't know                                                       

    any of this information until I got the call from Tristan,

 

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32:20      Q.   So what time were you on the phone with Tristan

21   about?

22      A.   That was probably, I want to say, probably about

23   4:30-ish, five.

(Tristan says between 11-2)

 

GJ-CB

178:10  We got probably a mile or so up Tribow Road, and the

 11  phone rang, Kyle's cell phone rang, and he picked it up,

 12  it was Tristan Blanchard,.

 

GJ-TBlanchard

They, they called me that afternoon

 224:12  Q.     So who called you?

13    A. Kyle.

 

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18:10   So then when I had seen them drive by, Kyle

11   Bolaski was calling my phone at that time, and I

12   answered the phone to Kyle,

 

 

CONCERNING THE TIME TRISTAN WAS PICKED UP COREY SAYS 5:30 PM. TRISTAN SAYS BETWEEN 11AM AND 2PM.

 

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93:11     Q.   That's where I was going with this.  About 5:00 you

12   talked to Tristan?

13      A.   5:00 then –

14      Q.   About what time do you pick him up?

15      A.   Probably around 5:15-ish, 5:30.

 

  GJ-TB

225:24  Q. Did Kyle come and pick you up?

 25  A.     Yep.

12  Q.     All right.  And about what time of day is it?

 13  A.     Early afternoon or mid afternoon, sometime between

 14  eleven and two, I want to say, sometime around there.

They said they picked him up at 5pm)

 

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 94;16    A.   Six, 6:15 is when we were at the ball field, I'm

17   pretty sure.  You know, we didn't really do too much.  This

18   kid was driving by Tristan's house.  And then we picked

19   Tristan up, went for a little cruise around, went to the

20   store to get gas,

 

32:20 Q.   So what time were you on the phone with Tristan

21   about?

22      A.   That was probably, I want to say, probably about

23   4:30-ish, five.

 

CONCERNING FIRING THE RIFLE WHILE SCOUTING. COREY SAYS NO ONE UCCI ALSO  SAYS NO ONE GOT OUT OR FIRED A GUN.

 

GJ-JU

16  Q.     Before anyone gets to the ball field, so thinking

 17  about Sunday, before you get to the ball field, anyone

 18  discharge the rifle?

 19  A.     No.

 20  Q.     So during the scouting, is there any shooting at

 21  anything?

 22  A.     No.

 

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116:3    But what I

 4   was asking was did you guys get out of the truck and scout

 5   on foot with the gun?

 6      A.   No, we never got out.

 

GJ-CB

The only time we got out was I got out one time

 24  to take a leak, excuse me, and Kyle had gotten out once

 25  or twice, and that was when he had .22 that he normally

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 01  carried with him, and he had gotten out, and he had fired

 02  a couple shots into a knot of a tree, just, checking for

 03  accuracy.  I do remember that.  Other than that, none of

 04  us really got out of truck at all.  It was just like an

 05  hour or so ride slowly through the woods. 

 

GJ-KB

26:20  Q.     And any point this day, Sunday, did you fire that

 21  .22?

 22  A.     Yes.

 23  Q.     When was that?

 24  A.     It was later on in the day.  Riding in Popple

 25  Dungeon.

0027

 01  Q.     What did you fire at?

 02  A.     A tree.

 03  Q.     For what purpose?

 04  A.     Just to see how it was shooting.

 05  Q.     Who was with you at the time you fired that .22?

 06  A.     Jerry Ucci and Corey, my brother.

 07  Q.     Just the three of you?

 08  A.     Yeah.

 09  Q.     So let's back, how was that gun working?

 10  A.     Fine.

 11  Q.     The .22; fine? 

 12  A.     Yeah.

 13  Q.     Did anyone else fire it that day, before you get

 14  to the ball field?

 15  A.     No, sir.

 16  Q.     So when you were done firing at the tree, you put

 17  it back in your truck?

 18  A.     Yes.

 

COREY SAYS TRISTAN CALLED KYLE THE NIGHT BEFORE TO TALK ABOUT INCIDENT. KYLE SAID HE NEVER SPOKE TO TRISTAN UNTIL HE CALLED ON SUNDAY!

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 112-25     Who's "those guys"?

113- 1      A.   Jerry and Kyle and them.  I don't know whether they

2   had word of this since night before, whether -- because I'm

 3   pretty sure that they -- last night Tristan had called Kyle

 4   and stuff and let him kind of know what was going on, when

 5   everything went down, as I know there was other people that

 6   were involved in this 

 

CONCERNING THE 1ST SHOT COREY SAID VINNIE CHASED KYLE AROUND THE TRUCK A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE KYLE SHOT THE 1ST SHOT. KYLE SAYS HE WENT RIGHTG TO VINNIE.

 

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117/21   A.   I didn't see.  I heard the shot.

 

118:15     Kyle gets out, he's got the rifle.  Does he go to

16   Vinnie's side or does Vinnie come to his side?  What

17   happened?

18      A.   Vinnie's running around the truck after him.

19      Q.   Okay.

20      A.   And he circles -- he probably went around maybe one

21   or two times or whatever, around the vehicle, you know,

22   because he's -- this Vinnie's still pursuing him with the

23   axe.

COREY SAYS KYLE, JERRY AND TIM ARE THE INSTIGATORS

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108-6   Kyle was over there with

 7   Jerry, and they were the two instigators with this other

 8   kid, Tim, or whoever the hell this kid was who's on the

 9   softball team, I don't know, he was in a cut-off.

 

KYLE, COREY AND UCCI PICK UP TRISTAN AND THEY GO SEARCHING FOR VINNIE. THE TIMELINE AND ROUTE THEY TOOK (See timeline) SHOWS THAT THEY HAD ACTUALLY WENT UP TO JULIE'S HOUSE BUT COULD NOT SEE VINNIE.

GJ   COREY

187:8 I took a

 09  left, went up to Cherry Hill, went back a couple job

 10  sites I work at landscaping, been there for three years. 

 11  I got done a couple jobs, I took them up by that area

 12  just to show the guys what I'd done.  We went up, saw

 13  that,  (That area is actually where Julie's house is. They went there to look for Vinnie.)

 

COREY INFERENCING THE GUNS WERE BROUGHT FOR A REASON TO BE USED AGAINST VINNIE.

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98- 3  

 4      Q.   So --

 5      A.   I honestly just didn't want to get involved in this

 6   situation to begin with tonight.  I told Kyle that.

 7      Q.   I can't imagine you did.

 8      A.   I just was, like, I just -- I need to go to work and

 9   look at me.  Try to work seven days a week to try and pay

10   for everything I have to pay for, try to stay on track and

11   try to not get in trouble, and then it's, like, you do a --

12   I mean, like I said, it was just two stupid decisions to go

13   down there and to have -- to go down there and have a gun,

( Again inferring the guns were brought with the intent to use.)

 

COREY SAYS HE DOESN'T KNOW IF VINNIE SAW HIM OR NOT. THEN VINNIE HAD NO REASON TO BE GOING AFTER HIM AS KYLE SAID

124:2   He saw you though?

3      A.   I don't know.

.

124:19   Q.   Well, let me ask you this again.  Did he see you

20   with a gun?

21      A.   I don't know.  Yeah, I think so.  Maybe.  Yes.  I

128:18   I told you, he was far enough where I'm talking 20, 30 yards

19   where I felt comfortable enough to shoot.

22   don't know.  I have no idea.

23      Q.   Okay.

24      A.   I don't know what he saw.  How would I tell you what

25   he saw? 

 

SAYS VINNIE WAS 20-30 YARDS AWAY. 60-90-FEET IS A FAR DISTANCE.

 

128:18   I told you, he was far enough where I'm talking 20, 30 yards

19   where I felt comfortable enough to shoot.

 

COREY SAYS WHEN THEY PULLED UP TO TB'S JORDAN WAS OUT THERE WITH HIM BUT THEY COULD NOT HAVE BEEN IF THEY DIDN'T GET UP UNTIL 2:30pm. JORDAN EBELT SAID THEY DID NOT GET UP UNTIL 2:30PM! JORDAN SAID SHE AND MICHELE WERE BOTH UPSTAIRS WHEN TRISTAN CAME UP TO TELL THEM HE WAS GOING WITH KYLE. SHE SAID HE DID NOT SEEM NERVOUS.

 

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12  was, like, you know, pacing back and forth like fifty

 13  yards from his house, just pacing back and forth.  So I

 14  pulled up into his little parking area, he came walking,

 15  and Michelle and Jordan were outside, and he was just,

 16  you know, teared out as could be, you know.  Just calm

 

COREY SAYS HE HEARD UCCI TELL TIM ARBUCKLE, "LET'S END IT WITH THIS KID"

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14   He's like you can

15   come meet me at the Chester baseball field. 

16   And after that, he had to use my phone to

17   call another friend, Tim Arbuckle, one of his friends,

18   and he said look, Tim, I heard you had problems with

19   this kid the night before, he said "let's end this with

20   this kid, he said, and deal with the situation.

 

 

COREY SAYS KYLE JUMPED IN THE TRUCK AND GOT OUT WITH THE GUN.

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117:1      Q.   While Vinnie's hitting the door, he comes out the

2   front driver's -- or the front passenger or rear passenger?

 3    A.   The passenger side, yeah, front passenger side is

 4   the only door you can get out --

 5      Q.   Right. 

 6      A.   -- of the truck.

 7      Q.   Does he get out and he has the gun or not have the

 8   gun?

 9      A.   Yeah, he does have the gun, I think.  I think.  I

10   don't know.  I can't -- I can't -- I can't remember.  I

11   wasn't sitting there just staring at the situation.  I'm

12   pretty -- yeah, obviously he jumped out.  He had the gun. 

13   He was scared.  Obviously he did, what I'm saying, it was

14   obvious.  That's definitely obvious that he definitely had

15   the gun.  He jumped in the truck.  I'm sure he was scared,

16   and he got out with the gun.  So I would say definitely he

17   got out with the gun.

18      Q.   Okay.

 

CONCERNING LURING VINNIE TO FIELD BY UCCI AND ARBUCKLE INFERRING GUNS THERE FOR THAT REASON.

 

21   down here and I'll (inaudible).  Like I said, he's a tough

22   guy

 

41:11      Q.   You believe Jerry tells Vinnie to show up at the

12   ball field?

13      A.   Right.  And --

14      Q.   And Jerry has a --

15      A.   In, like, X amount of minutes, 20 minutes, you

16   better be at the ball field.  But this kid hangs up or

17   whatever.  So Jerry calls Tim Arbuckle, Tim Arbuckle, and

18   says who is playing at the softball game?  And Tim is the

19   one that tells us to come down there or whatever, I think,

20   or tells -- you know what I mean?  He says, you know, come

 

 IN COREY'S FIRST STATEMENT TO POLICE COREY SAYS THEY WERE IN KYLE'S TRUCK WHEN THEY PICKED UP BLANCHARD BUT IN THE GRAND JURY HE SAID THEY WERE IN HIS TRUCK.

 

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35:18   So we went back to his

19   place, picked Tristan up.  So now me and Tristan are

20   together, Tristan started driving, and he was with me and

21   Kyle and Jerry, and that was it, in Kyle's car.

22      Q.   So there was four of you?

23      A.   Me, Kyle, Jerry, yeah.

24      Q.   The three of you guys that were scouting --

25      A.   Yeah.

36:1      Q.   -- and Tristan?

 2      A.   And Tristan.  And Kyle's dog at that point.

 3      Q.   You guys were riding around then or --

 4      A.   Yeah, we had just left my house.  We went and picked

 5   Tristan up.

 6      Q.   So you're in your truck, or your brother's truck

 7   or --

 8      A.   No, we were in my brother's truck.

 9      Q.   Kyle's truck?

10      A.   Kyle's truck.

 

 

CONCERNING RIFLES IN TRUCK. COREY DIDN'T KNOW HIS OWN GUN BECAUSE THE GUN ISN'T COREY'S.

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34:25    A.   Yeah.  We went out looking at trails and stuff, and

35:1   obviously we had a -- we had a .22 with us and I think -- I

 2   don't know.  There was another -- it was another -- it was a

 3   high powered rifle.  It was, whatever.

 4      Q.   Yeah.

 5      A.   It's always in the truck.

(if the 30-06 is corey’s why doesn’t he know the rifle? )

(if it is his why is his rifle always in  Kyle’s truck?)

(Because it’s obviously not his rifle!)

 

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71:17   A.   This is his truck we're in.

18      Q.   Okay.  So that was Kyle's .22?

19      A.   Kyle's .22.

20      Q.   Kyle's rifle?

21      A.   Yeah.

22      Q.   Or his other -- what was the other rifle?

23      A.   Just a high powered rifle.

24      Q.   Do you know what caliber?

25      A.   I don't know.  I think it was an aught six or

72:1   something.

 (THE RIFLE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COREY’S YET HE DID NOT KNOW HIS OWN RIFLE?)

 

And then, in C Bolaki’s Interview with Trooper Trudeau Page 34—Line 21 below, Corey claims he doesn’t know anything about the 30-06, other than it’s a high-powered rifle that’s always in the truck, which was already disputed in the above testimony of K Bolaski that Corey went into their apartment to get the rifle.

 

21     Q.   Got ya.  So you guys were scouting for deer season

22   from 2:30 --

23      A.   Yeah.

24      Q.   -- till 4:30 in that area?

25      A.   Yeah.  We went out looking at trails and stuff, and

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 1   obviously we had a -- we had a .22 with us and I think -- I

 2   don't know.  There was another -- it was another -- it was a

 3   high powered rifle.  It was, whatever.

 4      Q.   Yeah.

 5      A.   It's always in the truck.

 

Now, in Corey’s own words from his Grand Jury Testimony Page 229—Line 14 below, Corey states, not only is this his gun, but he’s had it for eight years, and if you noticed, in his own words above, all he knew was it was a high-powered rifle that is always in Kyle’s truck. But, again, we know Corey went into his apartment to get it.

 

 14  Q.     Just to be clear, the .22 belonged to Kyle, and

 15  the 30-06 belonged to you? 

 16  A.     Yep.

 17  Q.     How long had you had the 30-06?

 18  A.     My dad, actually that was my first rifle.  My dad

 19  bought that for me.  He worked at Fellows, and one of the

 20  ladies bought it for her husband, and he could no longer

 21  have guns, so we got that for real cheap, probably when I

 22  was fourteen years old, so we're looking like eight years

 23  ago, you know.

 

IN HIS FIRST STATEMENT COREY SAID TRISTAN CALLED HIM. IN THE GRAND JURY HE SAID TRISTAN CALLED KYLE. TRISTAN SAID KYLE CALLED HIM.

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31:25    A.   So that's what I heard from Tristan.  I didn't know                                                       

    any of this information until I got the call from Tristan,

  

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30 :4     Who did you hear that from? 

5      A.   That was just the word on the streets.  That's what

 6   Tristan told me because Tristan called me -- after I got out

 7   of work, which was at 3:00, I told you I picked up Kyle, we

 8   all went back to the apartment, and Tristan called me from

 9   there all -- out in front of his house worried, crying,

10   bawling, worried, saying, I don't feel safe here.  This

11   kid's --

 (Corey says Tristan called him)

 

GJ-CB

178:10  We got probably a mile or so up Tribow Road, and the

 11  phone rang, Kyle's cell phone rang, and he picked it up,

 12  it was Tristan Blanchard,.

 

CONCERNING WHO OFFERED THE GUN TO TRISTAN

GJ-CB

He says, really he was, he said he was trying to

 13  get some sort of a weapon from his girl friend's father,

 14  but that hadn't happened, and so I was kind of like, you

 15  need some self-defense, don't you, and well, that's what

 16  he had initiated before is he said he was trying to get a

 17  weapon, and I said, well, you have anything around?  He

 18  said, no, I have nothing, I don't have nothing.  So I had

 19  mentioned that I had had a weapon, a weapon at my

 20  apartment he could borrow, just merely possess for that

 21  night in case Vinny came back that night with a gun, and

 22  he would have something.  That was the only intention

 23  I had.

 

BLANCHARD SAID NO ONE OFFERED HIM THE GUN! THAT THERE WAS NO CONVERSATION AND THAT COREY JUST WENT IN AND GOT THE GUN.)

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31:20     Q.     Okay.  So Corey went into the house and

21   brought out a gun? 

22       A.     Um hum. 

23       Q.     Okay.  And why did they do that? 

24       A.     For protection as far as I'm concerned. 

25       Q.     Did they say something? 

32:1       A.     Did they say -- 

 2       Q.     Did they make comment about I'm going to get

 3   my gun or anything like that? 

 4       A.     No.  No. 

 5       Q.     They just came out and had the guns? 

6       A.     Um hum. 

 

20       Q.     When you got into Kyle's truck, Kyle took

21   the rifle from Corey's truck and put it into Kyle's

22   truck with him? 

23       A.     Yes. 

24       Q.     Corey went into the house? 

25       A.     Um hum. 

35:1       Q.     Came back out with another rifle -- 

 2       A.     Um hum. 

 3       Q.     -- is that right? 

 4       A.     Yeah. 

36:17    A.     And there was no talk to me -- no one said

18   anything to me about the rifles. 

19       Q.     And nobody said anything about the guns? 

20   Nobody said anything about the guns -- 

21       A.     No. 

22       Q.     -- the whole way there -- 

23       A.     No. 

 

 

IN HIS FIRST STATEMENT COREY SAID THEY PICKED TRISTAN UP THEN WENT AND GOT GAS WHILE STILL IN HIS TRUCK. COMPLETELY CONTRADICTING THE REASON THEY WENT TO THE HOUSE AND SWITCHED TRUCKS WHICH HE SAID WAS BECAUSE HE WAS OUT OF GAS SO THEY SWITCHED TO KYLE'S.

 

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 94:16    A.   Six, 6:15 is when we were at the ball field, I'm

17   pretty sure.  You know, we didn't really do too much. 

18 This  kid was driving by Tristan's house.  And then we picked

19   Tristan up, went for a little cruise around, went to the

20   store to get gas,

 

IN HIS FIRST STATEMENT COREY SAID UCCI GOADED VINNIE INTO FIGHTING. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN HIS GRAND JURY STATEMENT.

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Saying ucci goading vinnie into going to field.

42: 2   Q.   Okay.

 3      A.   I think it was probably after because if he -- if

 4   Tim said come to the softball field and then that was when

 5   Jerry probably was, like -- I think because the kid hung up. 

 6   I think Jerry called back and said, if you're a man or, you

 7   know, meet me at the softball field or whatever.  That's

 8   why, you know, and then we all -- they said, go down to the

 9   softball field.

 

FS- COREY BOLASKI

40:12     Q.   So you think Jerry told Vinnie to go to the ball

13   field?

14      A.   Right.  And Vinnie -- I mean, Jerry called up this

15   kid Tim, Tim Parker.  This is -- he's a bigger kid.  He

16   plays on the softball team.  He calls up -- Jerry and this

17   Tim are good friends, and Tim's a well known tough guy or

18   whatever, you know, whatever, I guess, and so frickin' --

19   he's, like, yeah, bring him -- have him come down to the

20   ball field, blah, blah, blah, this and that or something, I

21   think.  So that's why I think that he told him to go to the

22   ball field, obviously,

 

 

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41:11      Q.   You believe Jerry tells Vinnie to show up at the

12   ball field?

13      A.   Right.  And --

14      Q.   And Jerry has a --

15      A.   In, like, X amount of minutes, 20 minutes, you

16   better be at the ball field.  But this kid hangs up or

17   whatever.  So Jerry calls Tim Arbuckle, Tim Arbuckle, and

18   says who is playing at the softball game?  And Tim is the
19   one that tells us to come down there or whatever, I think,

20   or tells -- you know what I mean?  He says, you know, come

21   down here and I'll (inaudible).  Like I said, he's a tough

22   guy

 

 

CONCERNING KYLE GETTING IN THE TRUCK. COREY STATES KYLE GOT IN THE DRIVER'S DOOR, CONTRADICTING THAT KYLE RAN AROUND THE FRONT AND GOT IN THE PASSENGER'S SIDE.

 

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108:19   So Kyle says, Unlock the truck.

20      Q.   And you had the keys?

21      A.   And I had the keys at that point in time. 

22      Q.   How did you get the keys?

23      A.   Well, I -- I just got the keys.  I had the keys.  I

24   don't know.  I had the keys.

 

109:19    Q.   So you unlocked the door with the --

20      A.   With the padlock.

21      Q.   -- key fob thing or whatever the hell they call

22   that?

23      A.   Yeah.

24      Q.   Kyle gets in, Vinnie swings

 

113:24   Q.   So Kyle gets into the driver's seat.  Vinnie is

25   hitting that door?

26   A.   Yup.

 

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117:1      Q.   While Vinnie's hitting the door, he comes out the

2   front driver's -- or the front passenger or rear passenger?

 3    A.   The passenger side, yeah, front passenger side is

 4   the only door you can get out --

 5      Q.   Right. 

 6      A.   -- of the truck.

 7      Q.   Does he get out and he has the gun or not have the

 8   gun?

 9      A.   Yeah, he does have the gun, I think.  I think.  I

10   don't know.  I can't -- I can't -- I can't remember.  I

11   wasn't sitting there just staring at the situation.  I'm

12   pretty -- yeah, obviously he jumped out.  He had the gun. 

13   He was scared.  Obviously he did, what I'm saying, it was

14   obvious.  That's definitely obvious that he definitely had

15   the gun.  He jumped in the truck.  I'm sure he was scared,

16   and he got out with the gun.  So I would say definitely he

17   got out with the gun.

18      Q.   Okay.

 

And below, C Bolaski claims they were in Popple Dungeon Road at that time according to his GJ Testimony, Page 34—Line 3, which he claims to already have the 30.06 in the truck. The problem here is, C Bolaski could not have been in Popple Dungeon Road with K Bolaski and J Ucci between 3:30 and 3:45, when K Bolaski and J Ucci didn’t get out of Double Four Orchard until 4-4:30

 

 3      Q.   Who's Jerry?

 4      A.   Jerry Ucci was -- he works with my brother at

 5   Homestead, and they're always together.

 6      Q.   So you were with Jerry --

 7      A.   Yeah.

 8      Q.   -- scouting today?

 9      A.   Me, Jerry and Kyle.  Scouting, yes.

10      Q.   Okay.

11      A.   We went back to the apartment so I could tell my

12   girlfriend what we were doing.

13      Q.   You, Jerry and Kyle?

14      A.   Yeah.

15      Q.   What's Jerry's last name?

16      A.   Ucci.  I think it's U-s-s-i.

17      Q.   And what's Kyle's last name?

18      A.   Same as mine.

19      Q.   Oh, that's your brother.

20      A.   My brother. 

21      Q.   Got ya.  So you guys were scouting for deer season

22   from 2:30 --

23      A.   Yeah.

24      Q.   -- till 4:30 in that area?

25      A.   Yeah.  We went out looking at trails and stuff, and

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 1   obviously we had a -- we had a .22 with us and I think -- I

 2   don't know.  There was another -- it was another -- it was a

 3   high powered rifle.  It was, whatever.

And in C Bolaski’s statement to Trooper Trudeau beginning on Page35—Line 15 below, Corey claims they were in K Bolaski’s truck when they picked Tristan up. He was asked “who’s truck” several times and he continued to state it was Kyle’s truck. He also mentions that the dog was there at the time. So the dog was already with them when they picked T Blanchard up between 11:00am-2:00pm.

 

Now, the reason why this long passage is significant is because C Bolaski gets into detail about everything they did in K Bolaski’s truck, which is everything up to the phone call J  Ucci had with Vinnie, which you will learn took place at T-Bird’s Mini Mart less than a minute’s drive from Vinnie’s residence in Springfield.

 

15      Q.   Okay.

16      A.   So anyhow, we got out of the woods.  We went back

17   there and we saw him, then we called Tristan and we talked

18   to Tristan, and he was scared.  So we went back to his

19   place, picked Tristan up.  So now me and Tristan are

20   together, Tristan started driving, and he was with me and

21   Kyle and Jerry, and that was it, in Kyle's car.

22      Q.   So there was four of you?

23      A.   Me, Kyle, Jerry, yeah.

24      Q.   The three of you guys that were scouting --

25      A.   Yeah.

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 1      Q.   -- and Tristan?

 2      A.   And Tristan.  And Kyle's dog at that point.

 3      Q.   You guys were riding around then or --

 4      A.   Yeah, we had just left my house.  We went and picked

 5   Tristan up.

 6      Q.   So you're in your truck, or your brother's truck

 7   or --

 8       A.   No, we were in my brother's truck.

 9       Q.   Kyle's truck?

10      A.   Kyle's truck.

11      Q.   So you went to Tristan's in Kyle's truck.

12      A.   We picked Kyle -- or we went -- yeah.

13      Q.   So then it's you, Jerry, Kyle, Tristan riding

14   together?

15      A.   Yup.

16      Q.   Got ya. 

17      A.   And he's telling us what's going on and how he's so

18   scared, everything else, blah, blah, blah.  He's scared, he

19   don't know what to do.

20      Q.   So Tristan tells you --

21      A.   Yeah.

22      Q.   -- all this above information?

23      A.   Yeah, this, yeah.  I start saying, you know, what's

24   going on?  What's going on?  He's telling me.  He says, you

25   know, he's, like, telling me everything that's going on. 

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 1   So, you know, me and Tristan had our differences, but we're

 2   good -- I would never want anybody to get the shit kicked

 3   out of 'em.  We're pretty --

 4      Q.   For what?

 5      A.   You know, we used hate each other and now we're

 6   decent friends and --

 7      Q.   Yeah.

 8      A.   And I'd expect somebody to help me out if some huge

 9   kid was going to beat the shit out of me --

10      Q.   Sure.

11      A.   -- and was stalking my house.  Like I said, he's

12   like, you know, I don't feel -- the kid came up to my house

13   yesterday once already with a knife.  What's he going to

14   come up with next, a gun?  Something. 

15      Q.   Okay.

16      A.   I don't know.  So he was scared.  We picked him up.

17   And he had told his girlfriend and this other girl to leave

18   so that way this kid showed up, they wouldn't be there.

19      Q.   Who is Tristan's girlfriend?

20      A.   Michelle Lachapelle.

21      Q.   Yeah.  Yeah.

22      A.   So they left and we left.

23      Q.   And who was with Michelle?

24      A.   I'm not sure.  I think Jordan, that Jordan chick, I

25   think.

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 1      Q.   Yeah.

 2      A.   I don't know.

 3      Q.   That's all right.

 4      A.   I think.

 5      Q.   So Tristan tells Michelle and Jordan to leave his

 6   house?

 7      A.   Yes.

 8      Q.   So there's nobody at Tristan's house?

 9      A.   Yeah.  So that way if the kid comes back -- you got

10   somebody knocking.  Hello?

11      Q.   No, I think it was my foot.  Sorry.  So he tells the

12   girls to leave? 

13      A.   Yeah.  We all leave.

14      Q.   In case Vinnie shows up?

15      A.   In case, yeah, because they don't -- he doesn't, you

16   know, scared for them.

17      Q.   Yup.

18      A.   He doesn't --

19      Q.   Yup.

20      A.   So we all leave and we're driving.  We're just

21   driving around.  And Jerry calls Kirby because, like I said,

22   we had thought we had seen this kid.  And Tristan wanted to

23   talk to this kid and tell him, you know, what is your

24   problem.  But he's too scared of the kid.  So Jerry calls

25   Kirby up saying, where's this kid?  Where is Vinnie? 

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 1   Talking to Vinnie, you know.  What are you doing?  What's

 2   your problem?  This kid gets on the phone saying he's gonna

 3   -- he's a crazy mother F'er and he's going to find everyone

 4   involved and all this shit.

 5      Q.   So Jerry gets on the phone with him?

 6      A.   Yeah, oh, yeah.

 7      Q.   Because they're riding together?

 8      A.   Jerry calls --

 9      Q.   Jerry and --

10      A.   -- Kirby. 

11      Q.   Yup.

12      A.   Yup.  And Kirby gives the phone to this other kid.

13      Q.   So Kirby and Vinnie are together?

14      A.   Yeah.  Because Tristan had confirmed that they were

15   driving by his house.  They kept seeing this car drive by.

16   So we were, like, oh, that makes sense.  We had seen some

17   kid with Kirby earlier, you know.

18      Q.   So Jerry talks to Vinnie on the phone?

19      A.   Jerry knows Kirby.  Jerry went to Chester with

20   Kirby, you know what I mean?  We live in Chester, me and

21   Kyle, but I'm from Springfield.  So I don't really know

22   Jerry that well, I don't know Kirby that well.  Gibb's from

23   Chester.  I don't really -- but Jerry knows Kirby, so he

24   calls up Kirby and he's, like, you know, let me talk to this

25   Vinnie kid.  This Vinnie kid gets on the phone saying he's

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 1   going to beat everybody up, you know, he's going to hurt

 2   everyone, all this and that.  So Jerry, I think, told him to

 3   -- or he was asking him where he was or whatever, and the

 4   kid was saying he was going to beat him up, and he told him

 5   to -- I think he told him to -- that's why I don't -- I

 6   don't remember this part exactly, but I think he told him to

 7   go down to the ball field.  That's why I think the kid

 8   showed up there.  That's why I don't -- I don't -- I was

 9   inside at Jiffy Mart at this point in time.  I don't really

10   -- there was some -- there was some blue areas of where I

11   don't know, you know what I mean?

12      Q.   So you think Jerry told Vinnie to go to the ball

13   field?

14      A.   Right.  And Vinnie -- I mean, Jerry called up this

15   kid Tim, Tim Parker.  This is -- he's a bigger kid.  He

16   plays on the softball team.  He calls up -- Jerry and this

17   Tim are good friends, and Tim's a well known tough guy or

18   whatever, you know, whatever, I guess, and so frickin' --

19   he's, like, yeah, bring him -- have him come down to the

20   ball field, blah, blah, blah, this and that or something, I

21   think.

 

 

 

 





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