COREY BOLASKI FS= First statement GJ=Grand Jury
CONCERNING FRIENDSHIP WITH TRISTAN. SAYS HE IS VAGUELY FRIENDS. TRISTAN SAYS REALLY GOOD FRIENDS.
GJ
16:5 A. I know about yesterday is that I'm friends with --
6: vaguely friends with this kid Tristan Blanchard.
FS- KB
42:03 A. Tristan is, he's a friend of Corey's, also a
04 friend of mine. But he graduated with Corey. And they
05 are more closer friends than Tristan and myself,
GJ-TB
12 Q. So how would you describe your relationship with
13 Kyle?
14 A. Friends.
15 Q. And Corey?
16 A. Friends, really good friends.
CONCERNING THE PHONE CALL TO TRISTAN BLANCHARD FIRST STATES HE GOT THE CALL THEN SAYS KYLE DID.
FS-CB
31:25 A. So that's what I heard from Tristan. I didn't know
any of this information until I got the call from Tristan,
FS-CB
32:20 Q. So what time were you on the phone with Tristan
21 about?
22 A. That was probably, I want to say, probably about
23 4:30-ish, five.
(Tristan says between 11-2)
GJ-CB
178:10 We got probably a mile or so up Tribow Road, and the
11 phone rang, Kyle's cell phone rang, and he picked it up,
12 it was Tristan Blanchard,.
GJ-TBlanchard
They, they called me that afternoon
224:12 Q. So who called you?
13 A. Kyle.
FS-TBlanchard
18:10 So then when I had seen them drive by, Kyle
11 Bolaski was calling my phone at that time, and I
12 answered the phone to Kyle,
CONCERNING THE TIME TRISTAN WAS PICKED UP COREY SAYS 5:30 PM. TRISTAN SAYS BETWEEN 11AM AND 2PM.
FS-CB
93:11 Q. That's where I was going with this. About 5:00 you
12 talked to Tristan?
13 A. 5:00 then –
14 Q. About what time do you pick him up?
15 A. Probably around 5:15-ish, 5:30.
GJ-TB
225:24 Q. Did Kyle come and pick you up?
25 A. Yep.
12 Q. All right. And about what time of day is it?
13 A. Early afternoon or mid afternoon, sometime between
14 eleven and two, I want to say, sometime around there.
They said they picked him up at 5pm)
FS-CB
94;16 A. Six, 6:15 is when we were at the ball field, I'm
17 pretty sure. You know, we didn't really do too much. This
18 kid was driving by Tristan's house. And then we picked
19 Tristan up, went for a little cruise around, went to the
20 store to get gas,
32:20 Q. So what time were you on the phone with Tristan
21 about?
22 A. That was probably, I want to say, probably about
23 4:30-ish, five.
CONCERNING FIRING THE RIFLE WHILE SCOUTING. COREY SAYS NO ONE UCCI ALSO SAYS NO ONE GOT OUT OR FIRED A GUN.
GJ-JU
16 Q. Before anyone gets to the ball field, so thinking
17 about Sunday, before you get to the ball field, anyone
18 discharge the rifle?
19 A. No.
20 Q. So during the scouting, is there any shooting at
21 anything?
22 A. No.
FS-CB
116:3 But what I
4 was asking was did you guys get out of the truck and scout
5 on foot with the gun?
6 A. No, we never got out.
GJ-CB
The only time we got out was I got out one time
24 to take a leak, excuse me, and Kyle had gotten out once
25 or twice, and that was when he had .22 that he normally
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01 carried with him, and he had gotten out, and he had fired
02 a couple shots into a knot of a tree, just, checking for
03 accuracy. I do remember that. Other than that, none of
04 us really got out of truck at all. It was just like an
05 hour or so ride slowly through the woods.
GJ-KB
26:20 Q. And any point this day, Sunday, did you fire that
21 .22?
22 A. Yes.
23 Q. When was that?
24 A. It was later on in the day. Riding in Popple
25 Dungeon.
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01 Q. What did you fire at?
02 A. A tree.
03 Q. For what purpose?
04 A. Just to see how it was shooting.
05 Q. Who was with you at the time you fired that .22?
06 A. Jerry Ucci and Corey, my brother.
07 Q. Just the three of you?
08 A. Yeah.
09 Q. So let's back, how was that gun working?
10 A. Fine.
11 Q. The .22; fine?
12 A. Yeah.
13 Q. Did anyone else fire it that day, before you get
14 to the ball field?
15 A. No, sir.
16 Q. So when you were done firing at the tree, you put
17 it back in your truck?
18 A. Yes.
COREY SAYS TRISTAN CALLED KYLE THE NIGHT BEFORE TO TALK ABOUT INCIDENT. KYLE SAID HE NEVER SPOKE TO TRISTAN UNTIL HE CALLED ON SUNDAY!
FS-CB
112-25 Who's "those guys"?
113- 1 A. Jerry and Kyle and them. I don't know whether they
2 had word of this since night before, whether -- because I'm
3 pretty sure that they -- last night Tristan had called Kyle
4 and stuff and let him kind of know what was going on, when
5 everything went down, as I know there was other people that
6 were involved in this
CONCERNING THE 1ST SHOT COREY SAID VINNIE CHASED KYLE AROUND THE TRUCK A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE KYLE SHOT THE 1ST SHOT. KYLE SAYS HE WENT RIGHTG TO VINNIE.
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117/21 A. I didn't see. I heard the shot.
118:15 Kyle gets out, he's got the rifle. Does he go to
16 Vinnie's side or does Vinnie come to his side? What
17 happened?
18 A. Vinnie's running around the truck after him.
19 Q. Okay.
20 A. And he circles -- he probably went around maybe one
21 or two times or whatever, around the vehicle, you know,
22 because he's -- this Vinnie's still pursuing him with the
23 axe.
COREY SAYS KYLE, JERRY AND TIM ARE THE INSTIGATORS
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108-6 Kyle was over there with
7 Jerry, and they were the two instigators with this other
8 kid, Tim, or whoever the hell this kid was who's on the
9 softball team, I don't know, he was in a cut-off.
KYLE, COREY AND UCCI PICK UP TRISTAN AND THEY GO SEARCHING FOR VINNIE. THE TIMELINE AND ROUTE THEY TOOK (See timeline) SHOWS THAT THEY HAD ACTUALLY WENT UP TO JULIE'S HOUSE BUT COULD NOT SEE VINNIE.
GJ COREY
187:8 I took a
09 left, went up to Cherry Hill, went back a couple job
10 sites I work at landscaping, been there for three years.
11 I got done a couple jobs, I took them up by that area
12 just to show the guys what I'd done. We went up, saw
13 that, (That area is actually where Julie's house is. They went there to look for Vinnie.)
COREY INFERENCING THE GUNS WERE BROUGHT FOR A REASON TO BE USED AGAINST VINNIE.
FS- CB
98- 3
4 Q. So --
5 A. I honestly just didn't want to get involved in this
6 situation to begin with tonight. I told Kyle that.
7 Q. I can't imagine you did.
8 A. I just was, like, I just -- I need to go to work and
9 look at me. Try to work seven days a week to try and pay
10 for everything I have to pay for, try to stay on track and
11 try to not get in trouble, and then it's, like, you do a --
12 I mean, like I said, it was just two stupid decisions to go
13 down there and to have -- to go down there and have a gun,
( Again inferring the guns were brought with the intent to use.)
COREY SAYS HE DOESN'T KNOW IF VINNIE SAW HIM OR NOT. THEN VINNIE HAD NO REASON TO BE GOING AFTER HIM AS KYLE SAID
124:2 He saw you though?
3 A. I don't know.
.
124:19 Q. Well, let me ask you this again. Did he see you
20 with a gun?
21 A. I don't know. Yeah, I think so. Maybe. Yes. I
128:18 I told you, he was far enough where I'm talking 20, 30 yards
19 where I felt comfortable enough to shoot.
22 don't know. I have no idea.
23 Q. Okay.
24 A. I don't know what he saw. How would I tell you what
25 he saw?
SAYS VINNIE WAS 20-30 YARDS AWAY. 60-90-FEET IS A FAR DISTANCE.
128:18 I told you, he was far enough where I'm talking 20, 30 yards
19 where I felt comfortable enough to shoot.
COREY SAYS WHEN THEY PULLED UP TO TB'S JORDAN WAS OUT THERE WITH HIM BUT THEY COULD NOT HAVE BEEN IF THEY DIDN'T GET UP UNTIL 2:30pm. JORDAN EBELT SAID THEY DID NOT GET UP UNTIL 2:30PM! JORDAN SAID SHE AND MICHELE WERE BOTH UPSTAIRS WHEN TRISTAN CAME UP TO TELL THEM HE WAS GOING WITH KYLE. SHE SAID HE DID NOT SEEM NERVOUS.
GJ-CB
12 was, like, you know, pacing back and forth like fifty
13 yards from his house, just pacing back and forth. So I
14 pulled up into his little parking area, he came walking,
15 and Michelle and Jordan were outside, and he was just,
16 you know, teared out as could be, you know. Just calm
COREY SAYS HE HEARD UCCI TELL TIM ARBUCKLE, "LET'S END IT WITH THIS KID"
FS-CB
14 He's like you can
15 come meet me at the Chester baseball field.
16 And after that, he had to use my phone to
17 call another friend, Tim Arbuckle, one of his friends,
18 and he said look, Tim, I heard you had problems with
19 this kid the night before, he said "let's end this with
20 this kid, he said, and deal with the situation.
COREY SAYS KYLE JUMPED IN THE TRUCK AND GOT OUT WITH THE GUN.
FS-CB
117:1 Q. While Vinnie's hitting the door, he comes out the
2 front driver's -- or the front passenger or rear passenger?
3 A. The passenger side, yeah, front passenger side is
4 the only door you can get out --
5 Q. Right.
6 A. -- of the truck.
7 Q. Does he get out and he has the gun or not have the
8 gun?
9 A. Yeah, he does have the gun, I think. I think. I
10 don't know. I can't -- I can't -- I can't remember. I
11 wasn't sitting there just staring at the situation. I'm
12 pretty -- yeah, obviously he jumped out. He had the gun.
13 He was scared. Obviously he did, what I'm saying, it was
14 obvious. That's definitely obvious that he definitely had
15 the gun. He jumped in the truck. I'm sure he was scared,
16 and he got out with the gun. So I would say definitely he
17 got out with the gun.
18 Q. Okay.
CONCERNING LURING VINNIE TO FIELD BY UCCI AND ARBUCKLE INFERRING GUNS THERE FOR THAT REASON.
21 down here and I'll (inaudible). Like I said, he's a tough
22 guy
41:11 Q. You believe Jerry tells Vinnie to show up at the
12 ball field?
13 A. Right. And --
14 Q. And Jerry has a --
15 A. In, like, X amount of minutes, 20 minutes, you
16 better be at the ball field. But this kid hangs up or
17 whatever. So Jerry calls Tim Arbuckle, Tim Arbuckle, and
18 says who is playing at the softball game? And Tim is the
19 one that tells us to come down there or whatever, I think,
20 or tells -- you know what I mean? He says, you know, come
IN COREY'S FIRST STATEMENT TO POLICE COREY SAYS THEY WERE IN KYLE'S TRUCK WHEN THEY PICKED UP BLANCHARD BUT IN THE GRAND JURY HE SAID THEY WERE IN HIS TRUCK.
FS-CB
35:18 So we went back to his
19 place, picked Tristan up. So now me and Tristan are
20 together, Tristan started driving, and he was with me and
21 Kyle and Jerry, and that was it, in Kyle's car.
22 Q. So there was four of you?
23 A. Me, Kyle, Jerry, yeah.
24 Q. The three of you guys that were scouting --
25 A. Yeah.
36:1 Q. -- and Tristan?
2 A. And Tristan. And Kyle's dog at that point.
3 Q. You guys were riding around then or --
4 A. Yeah, we had just left my house. We went and picked
5 Tristan up.
6 Q. So you're in your truck, or your brother's truck
7 or --
8 A. No, we were in my brother's truck.
9 Q. Kyle's truck?
10 A. Kyle's truck.
CONCERNING RIFLES IN TRUCK. COREY DIDN'T KNOW HIS OWN GUN BECAUSE THE GUN ISN'T COREY'S.
FS-CB
34:25 A. Yeah. We went out looking at trails and stuff, and
35:1 obviously we had a -- we had a .22 with us and I think -- I
2 don't know. There was another -- it was another -- it was a
3 high powered rifle. It was, whatever.
4 Q. Yeah.
5 A. It's always in the truck.
(if the 30-06 is corey’s why doesn’t he know the rifle? )
(if it is his why is his rifle always in Kyle’s truck?)
(Because it’s obviously not his rifle!)
FS-CB
71:17 A. This is his truck we're in.
18 Q. Okay. So that was Kyle's .22?
19 A. Kyle's .22.
20 Q. Kyle's rifle?
21 A. Yeah.
22 Q. Or his other -- what was the other rifle?
23 A. Just a high powered rifle.
24 Q. Do you know what caliber?
25 A. I don't know. I think it was an aught six or
72:1 something.
(THE RIFLE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COREY’S YET HE DID NOT KNOW HIS OWN RIFLE?)
And then, in C Bolaki’s Interview with Trooper Trudeau Page 34—Line 21 below, Corey claims he doesn’t know anything about the 30-06, other than it’s a high-powered rifle that’s always in the truck, which was already disputed in the above testimony of K Bolaski that Corey went into their apartment to get the rifle.
21 Q. Got ya. So you guys were scouting for deer season
22 from 2:30 --
23 A. Yeah.
24 Q. -- till 4:30 in that area?
25 A. Yeah. We went out looking at trails and stuff, and
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1 obviously we had a -- we had a .22 with us and I think -- I
2 don't know. There was another -- it was another -- it was a
3 high powered rifle. It was, whatever.
4 Q. Yeah.
5 A. It's always in the truck.
Now, in Corey’s own words from his Grand Jury Testimony Page 229—Line 14 below, Corey states, not only is this his gun, but he’s had it for eight years, and if you noticed, in his own words above, all he knew was it was a high-powered rifle that is always in Kyle’s truck. But, again, we know Corey went into his apartment to get it.
14 Q. Just to be clear, the .22 belonged to Kyle, and
15 the 30-06 belonged to you?
16 A. Yep.
17 Q. How long had you had the 30-06?
18 A. My dad, actually that was my first rifle. My dad
19 bought that for me. He worked at Fellows, and one of the
20 ladies bought it for her husband, and he could no longer
21 have guns, so we got that for real cheap, probably when I
22 was fourteen years old, so we're looking like eight years
23 ago, you know.
IN HIS FIRST STATEMENT COREY SAID TRISTAN CALLED HIM. IN THE GRAND JURY HE SAID TRISTAN CALLED KYLE. TRISTAN SAID KYLE CALLED HIM.
FS-CB
31:25 A. So that's what I heard from Tristan. I didn't know
any of this information until I got the call from Tristan,
FS-CB
30 :4 Who did you hear that from?
5 A. That was just the word on the streets. That's what
6 Tristan told me because Tristan called me -- after I got out
7 of work, which was at 3:00, I told you I picked up Kyle, we
8 all went back to the apartment, and Tristan called me from
9 there all -- out in front of his house worried, crying,
10 bawling, worried, saying, I don't feel safe here. This
11 kid's --
(Corey says Tristan called him)
GJ-CB
178:10 We got probably a mile or so up Tribow Road, and the
11 phone rang, Kyle's cell phone rang, and he picked it up,
12 it was Tristan Blanchard,.
CONCERNING WHO OFFERED THE GUN TO TRISTAN
GJ-CB
He says, really he was, he said he was trying to
13 get some sort of a weapon from his girl friend's father,
14 but that hadn't happened, and so I was kind of like, you
15 need some self-defense, don't you, and well, that's what
16 he had initiated before is he said he was trying to get a
17 weapon, and I said, well, you have anything around? He
18 said, no, I have nothing, I don't have nothing. So I had
19 mentioned that I had had a weapon, a weapon at my
20 apartment he could borrow, just merely possess for that
21 night in case Vinny came back that night with a gun, and
22 he would have something. That was the only intention
23 I had.
BLANCHARD SAID NO ONE OFFERED HIM THE GUN! THAT THERE WAS NO CONVERSATION AND THAT COREY JUST WENT IN AND GOT THE GUN.)
FS-TB
31:20 Q. Okay. So Corey went into the house and
21 brought out a gun?
22 A. Um hum.
23 Q. Okay. And why did they do that?
24 A. For protection as far as I'm concerned.
25 Q. Did they say something?
32:1 A. Did they say --
2 Q. Did they make comment about I'm going to get
3 my gun or anything like that?
4 A. No. No.
5 Q. They just came out and had the guns?
6 A. Um hum.
20 Q. When you got into Kyle's truck, Kyle took
21 the rifle from Corey's truck and put it into Kyle's
22 truck with him?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. Corey went into the house?
25 A. Um hum.
35:1 Q. Came back out with another rifle --
2 A. Um hum.
3 Q. -- is that right?
4 A. Yeah.
36:17 A. And there was no talk to me -- no one said
18 anything to me about the rifles.
19 Q. And nobody said anything about the guns?
20 Nobody said anything about the guns --
21 A. No.
22 Q. -- the whole way there --
23 A. No.
IN HIS FIRST STATEMENT COREY SAID THEY PICKED TRISTAN UP THEN WENT AND GOT GAS WHILE STILL IN HIS TRUCK. COMPLETELY CONTRADICTING THE REASON THEY WENT TO THE HOUSE AND SWITCHED TRUCKS WHICH HE SAID WAS BECAUSE HE WAS OUT OF GAS SO THEY SWITCHED TO KYLE'S.
FS-CB
94:16 A. Six, 6:15 is when we were at the ball field, I'm
17 pretty sure. You know, we didn't really do too much.
18 This kid was driving by Tristan's house. And then we picked
19 Tristan up, went for a little cruise around, went to the
20 store to get gas,
IN HIS FIRST STATEMENT COREY SAID UCCI GOADED VINNIE INTO FIGHTING. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN HIS GRAND JURY STATEMENT.
FS-CB
Saying ucci goading vinnie into going to field.
42: 2 Q. Okay.
3 A. I think it was probably after because if he -- if
4 Tim said come to the softball field and then that was when
5 Jerry probably was, like -- I think because the kid hung up.
6 I think Jerry called back and said, if you're a man or, you
7 know, meet me at the softball field or whatever. That's
8 why, you know, and then we all -- they said, go down to the
9 softball field.
FS- COREY BOLASKI
40:12 Q. So you think Jerry told Vinnie to go to the ball
13 field?
14 A. Right. And Vinnie -- I mean, Jerry called up this
15 kid Tim, Tim Parker. This is -- he's a bigger kid. He
16 plays on the softball team. He calls up -- Jerry and this
17 Tim are good friends, and Tim's a well known tough guy or
18 whatever, you know, whatever, I guess, and so frickin' --
19 he's, like, yeah, bring him -- have him come down to the
20 ball field, blah, blah, blah, this and that or something, I
21 think. So that's why I think that he told him to go to the
22 ball field, obviously,
FS-CB
41:11 Q. You believe Jerry tells Vinnie to show up at the
12 ball field?
13 A. Right. And --
14 Q. And Jerry has a --
15 A. In, like, X amount of minutes, 20 minutes, you
16 better be at the ball field. But this kid hangs up or
17 whatever. So Jerry calls Tim Arbuckle, Tim Arbuckle, and
18 says who is playing at the softball game? And Tim is the
19 one that tells us to come down there or whatever, I think,
20 or tells -- you know what I mean? He says, you know, come
21 down here and I'll (inaudible). Like I said, he's a tough
22 guy
CONCERNING KYLE GETTING IN THE TRUCK. COREY STATES KYLE GOT IN THE DRIVER'S DOOR, CONTRADICTING THAT KYLE RAN AROUND THE FRONT AND GOT IN THE PASSENGER'S SIDE.
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108:19 So Kyle says, Unlock the truck.
20 Q. And you had the keys?
21 A. And I had the keys at that point in time.
22 Q. How did you get the keys?
23 A. Well, I -- I just got the keys. I had the keys. I
24 don't know. I had the keys.
109:19 Q. So you unlocked the door with the --
20 A. With the padlock.
21 Q. -- key fob thing or whatever the hell they call
22 that?
23 A. Yeah.
24 Q. Kyle gets in, Vinnie swings
113:24 Q. So Kyle gets into the driver's seat. Vinnie is
25 hitting that door?
26 A. Yup.
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117:1 Q. While Vinnie's hitting the door, he comes out the
2 front driver's -- or the front passenger or rear passenger?
3 A. The passenger side, yeah, front passenger side is
4 the only door you can get out --
5 Q. Right.
6 A. -- of the truck.
7 Q. Does he get out and he has the gun or not have the
8 gun?
9 A. Yeah, he does have the gun, I think. I think. I
10 don't know. I can't -- I can't -- I can't remember. I
11 wasn't sitting there just staring at the situation. I'm
12 pretty -- yeah, obviously he jumped out. He had the gun.
13 He was scared. Obviously he did, what I'm saying, it was
14 obvious. That's definitely obvious that he definitely had
15 the gun. He jumped in the truck. I'm sure he was scared,
16 and he got out with the gun. So I would say definitely he
17 got out with the gun.
18 Q. Okay.
And below, C Bolaski claims they were in Popple Dungeon Road at that time according to his GJ Testimony, Page 34—Line 3, which he claims to already have the 30.06 in the truck. The problem here is, C Bolaski could not have been in Popple Dungeon Road with K Bolaski and J Ucci between 3:30 and 3:45, when K Bolaski and J Ucci didn’t get out of Double Four Orchard until 4-4:30
3 Q. Who's Jerry?
4 A. Jerry Ucci was -- he works with my brother at
5 Homestead, and they're always together.
6 Q. So you were with Jerry --
7 A. Yeah.
8 Q. -- scouting today?
9 A. Me, Jerry and Kyle. Scouting, yes.
10 Q. Okay.
11 A. We went back to the apartment so I could tell my
12 girlfriend what we were doing.
13 Q. You, Jerry and Kyle?
14 A. Yeah.
15 Q. What's Jerry's last name?
16 A. Ucci. I think it's U-s-s-i.
17 Q. And what's Kyle's last name?
18 A. Same as mine.
19 Q. Oh, that's your brother.
20 A. My brother.
21 Q. Got ya. So you guys were scouting for deer season
22 from 2:30 --
23 A. Yeah.
24 Q. -- till 4:30 in that area?
25 A. Yeah. We went out looking at trails and stuff, and
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1 obviously we had a -- we had a .22 with us and I think -- I
2 don't know. There was another -- it was another -- it was a
3 high powered rifle. It was, whatever.
And in C Bolaski’s statement to Trooper Trudeau beginning on Page35—Line 15 below, Corey claims they were in K Bolaski’s truck when they picked Tristan up. He was asked “who’s truck” several times and he continued to state it was Kyle’s truck. He also mentions that the dog was there at the time. So the dog was already with them when they picked T Blanchard up between 11:00am-2:00pm.
Now, the reason why this long passage is significant is because C Bolaski gets into detail about everything they did in K Bolaski’s truck, which is everything up to the phone call J Ucci had with Vinnie, which you will learn took place at T-Bird’s Mini Mart less than a minute’s drive from Vinnie’s residence in Springfield.
15 Q. Okay.
16 A. So anyhow, we got out of the woods. We went back
17 there and we saw him, then we called Tristan and we talked
18 to Tristan, and he was scared. So we went back to his
19 place, picked Tristan up. So now me and Tristan are
20 together, Tristan started driving, and he was with me and
21 Kyle and Jerry, and that was it, in Kyle's car.
22 Q. So there was four of you?
23 A. Me, Kyle, Jerry, yeah.
24 Q. The three of you guys that were scouting --
25 A. Yeah.
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1 Q. -- and Tristan?
2 A. And Tristan. And Kyle's dog at that point.
3 Q. You guys were riding around then or --
4 A. Yeah, we had just left my house. We went and picked
5 Tristan up.
6 Q. So you're in your truck, or your brother's truck
7 or --
8 A. No, we were in my brother's truck.
9 Q. Kyle's truck?
10 A. Kyle's truck.
11 Q. So you went to Tristan's in Kyle's truck.
12 A. We picked Kyle -- or we went -- yeah.
13 Q. So then it's you, Jerry, Kyle, Tristan riding
14 together?
15 A. Yup.
16 Q. Got ya.
17 A. And he's telling us what's going on and how he's so
18 scared, everything else, blah, blah, blah. He's scared, he
19 don't know what to do.
20 Q. So Tristan tells you --
21 A. Yeah.
22 Q. -- all this above information?
23 A. Yeah, this, yeah. I start saying, you know, what's
24 going on? What's going on? He's telling me. He says, you
25 know, he's, like, telling me everything that's going on.
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1 So, you know, me and Tristan had our differences, but we're
2 good -- I would never want anybody to get the shit kicked
3 out of 'em. We're pretty --
4 Q. For what?
5 A. You know, we used hate each other and now we're
6 decent friends and --
7 Q. Yeah.
8 A. And I'd expect somebody to help me out if some huge
9 kid was going to beat the shit out of me --
10 Q. Sure.
11 A. -- and was stalking my house. Like I said, he's
12 like, you know, I don't feel -- the kid came up to my house
13 yesterday once already with a knife. What's he going to
14 come up with next, a gun? Something.
15 Q. Okay.
16 A. I don't know. So he was scared. We picked him up.
17 And he had told his girlfriend and this other girl to leave
18 so that way this kid showed up, they wouldn't be there.
19 Q. Who is Tristan's girlfriend?
20 A. Michelle Lachapelle.
21 Q. Yeah. Yeah.
22 A. So they left and we left.
23 Q. And who was with Michelle?
24 A. I'm not sure. I think Jordan, that Jordan chick, I
25 think.
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1 Q. Yeah.
2 A. I don't know.
3 Q. That's all right.
4 A. I think.
5 Q. So Tristan tells Michelle and Jordan to leave his
6 house?
7 A. Yes.
8 Q. So there's nobody at Tristan's house?
9 A. Yeah. So that way if the kid comes back -- you got
10 somebody knocking. Hello?
11 Q. No, I think it was my foot. Sorry. So he tells the
12 girls to leave?
13 A. Yeah. We all leave.
14 Q. In case Vinnie shows up?
15 A. In case, yeah, because they don't -- he doesn't, you
16 know, scared for them.
17 Q. Yup.
18 A. He doesn't --
19 Q. Yup.
20 A. So we all leave and we're driving. We're just
21 driving around. And Jerry calls Kirby because, like I said,
22 we had thought we had seen this kid. And Tristan wanted to
23 talk to this kid and tell him, you know, what is your
24 problem. But he's too scared of the kid. So Jerry calls
25 Kirby up saying, where's this kid? Where is Vinnie?
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1 Talking to Vinnie, you know. What are you doing? What's
2 your problem? This kid gets on the phone saying he's gonna
3 -- he's a crazy mother F'er and he's going to find everyone
4 involved and all this shit.
5 Q. So Jerry gets on the phone with him?
6 A. Yeah, oh, yeah.
7 Q. Because they're riding together?
8 A. Jerry calls --
9 Q. Jerry and --
10 A. -- Kirby.
11 Q. Yup.
12 A. Yup. And Kirby gives the phone to this other kid.
13 Q. So Kirby and Vinnie are together?
14 A. Yeah. Because Tristan had confirmed that they were
15 driving by his house. They kept seeing this car drive by.
16 So we were, like, oh, that makes sense. We had seen some
17 kid with Kirby earlier, you know.
18 Q. So Jerry talks to Vinnie on the phone?
19 A. Jerry knows Kirby. Jerry went to Chester with
20 Kirby, you know what I mean? We live in Chester, me and
21 Kyle, but I'm from Springfield. So I don't really know
22 Jerry that well, I don't know Kirby that well. Gibb's from
23 Chester. I don't really -- but Jerry knows Kirby, so he
24 calls up Kirby and he's, like, you know, let me talk to this
25 Vinnie kid. This Vinnie kid gets on the phone saying he's
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1 going to beat everybody up, you know, he's going to hurt
2 everyone, all this and that. So Jerry, I think, told him to
3 -- or he was asking him where he was or whatever, and the
4 kid was saying he was going to beat him up, and he told him
5 to -- I think he told him to -- that's why I don't -- I
6 don't remember this part exactly, but I think he told him to
7 go down to the ball field. That's why I think the kid
8 showed up there. That's why I don't -- I don't -- I was
9 inside at Jiffy Mart at this point in time. I don't really
10 -- there was some -- there was some blue areas of where I
11 don't know, you know what I mean?
12 Q. So you think Jerry told Vinnie to go to the ball
13 field?
14 A. Right. And Vinnie -- I mean, Jerry called up this
15 kid Tim, Tim Parker. This is -- he's a bigger kid. He
16 plays on the softball team. He calls up -- Jerry and this
17 Tim are good friends, and Tim's a well known tough guy or
18 whatever, you know, whatever, I guess, and so frickin' --
19 he's, like, yeah, bring him -- have him come down to the
20 ball field, blah, blah, blah, this and that or something, I
21 think.